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Angering the people hadith?
03/28/04 at 01:08:37

Brothers and sisters, I am very confused.

Where is the tolerance?  Am I wrong for associationg peace with my religion?

And from 'A'ishah (radiyallahu 'anha) that the Messenger of Allah (sallallahu 'alayhi
wa-sallam) said:

"Whoever seeks Allah's pleasure by angering the people, Allah will be pleased with him
and He will make the people pleased with him, and whoever seeks the pleasure of the people
by angering Allah, Allah will be angry with him and He will make the people angry with
him." [Narrated by Ibn Hibbaan in his Saheeh.]
Re: Angering the people hadith?
03/28/04 at 01:23:56

islam is about peace.. internal, external, individual and collective.. don't let anyone tell you different.

this hadith means that sometimes when we do the right thing by obeying Allah we please Allah, but feel we are angering the people. For example, wearing hijab.. we know it's right and a good thing but are very worried about what people will think. But Allah tells us that if we do things that are right and in His cause, He will bless it, and eventually the people in general will respect us and be fine with it.

and those who try to follow what people say and do in wrong things, pleasing only people and end up angering Allah -- eventually even the people will be upset with them. like someone who say lies or brags about something to get people to like them.. but eventually Allah exposes their lie and the poeple end up hating them.

basically this hadith is saying we shouldn't make people our lithmus test in what should be done in right and wrong, because they are fallible. if we do that we anger Allah. if we get over that and try to do what Allah wants, He will bless us in what we have chosen inshaAllah
Litmus Test
03/28/04 at 07:41:59
[quote]basically this hadith is saying we shouldn't make people our lithmus test [/quote]

What do you use as a litmus test? Often I wonder, if I am doing the right thing, or am I setting my priorities right.
Re: Angering the people hadith?
03/28/04 at 07:46:06
You look at your actions and see if they correspond to those you yourself would judge as being within the Shariah and helping you on the path to closeness to Allah (swt). Everyone's implementation of Islam is different as everyone is individual - however, everyone's goal is the same. To love and hate for the sake of Allah (swt) and to consider him in every action one does - this is ihsan and iman, right?
lost in translation
03/28/04 at 10:15:48

The way the hadeeth has been translated is very problematic and gives a total different meaning than the intended.

For those who can understand arabic, this is the text of the hadith (N.B. you need to change the encoding in IE to Arabic in order to read this)

‏ ‏حدثنا ‏ ‏سويد بن نصر ‏ ‏أخبرنا ‏ ‏عبد الله بن المبارك ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏عبد الوهاب بن الورد ‏ ‏عن ‏ ‏رجل ‏ ‏من أهل ‏ ‏المدينة ‏ ‏قال ‏
‏كتب ‏ ‏معاوية ‏ ‏إلى ‏ ‏عائشة ‏ ‏أم المؤمنين ‏ ‏رضي الله عنها ‏ ‏أن اكتبي إلي كتابا ‏ ‏توصيني فيه ولا تكثري علي
: فكتبت ‏ ‏عائشة ‏ ‏رضي الله عنها ‏ ‏إلى ‏ ‏معاوية ‏ ‏سلام عليك أما بعد فإني سمعت رسول الله ‏ ‏صلى الله عليه وسلم ‏ ‏يقول ‏
‏من ‏ ‏التمس ‏ ‏رضا الله بسخط الناس كفاه الله مؤنة الناس ومن ‏ ‏التمس ‏ ‏رضا الناس بسخط الله ‏ ‏وكله ‏ ‏الله إلى الناس
والسلام عليك

Narrated in Tirmidhi, hadith no. 2338 (I got this from

The text of the hadeeth can be translated as:

Whoever seeks pleasing Allah risking the wrath of people, Allah will be sufficient for him/her, and whoever seeks the pleasure of people risking the wrath of Allah, Allah will make the affairs of this individual in the hands of these people.

It should also be mentioned that this hadeeth was mentioned in the section about 'zuhd' [which means abandonening worldy luxuries and getting close to Allah through worship and achieving inner and outer peacefulness]

It imperative to know that Islam does not encourage us to "anger" people, and then think of ourselves as heroes who seek Allah's pleasure.  Rather, we are encouraged to worry less about how people view us when we are trying to increase our levels of iman and get closer to Allah.  So as sr. jannah mentioned, hijab is a good example.  Poeple will stare and think less of your intelligectual capacity, but that does not matter because the person who donned hijab did so to get closer to Allah .  Another example is the beard.  

Of course, one should not be adamant about his or her interpretation of how to get closer to Allah, and should listen to advice of people who are more knowledgeable in Islam.  

Take care
03/28/04 at 12:46:59
Re: Angering the people hadith?
03/29/04 at 15:37:47
Angering  people  itself   is is a  sin  so What  is meant  by  people  here is  those  who  oppose  what  ALLAH  commands.So  as  in  every  thing  when  there are    Two  contradicting  teams  what  pleases  one  doesn't  please  the  other.And  the  people   In  this  Hadith   are  those  with  the  team  of  satan  and  the  others are  with  the  team  of  ALLAH.
But we  dont  have to  take  offending  people  with  everything  means  pleasing  ALLAH .we  should  know  this  difference  

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