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Commonly spread false hadith
09/02/01 at 00:32:22

I asked about the following hadith that I have seen spread around so many times and was given this response:

Hadith of Prophet(P.B.U.H) :
The one who disdains the prayers will receive fifteen punishments from Allah. Six punishments in lifetime, three while dying, three in grave and three on the Day of Judgement.
The six punishments of life:

Allah takes away blessings from his age (makes his life misfortunate)
.Allah does not accept his plea(Du'aa)
Allah erases the features of good people from his face.
He will be detested by all creatures on earth.
Allah does not award him for his good deeds.(No thawab)
He will not be included in the Du'aa of good people.
The three punishments while Dying:

He dies humiliated.
He dies hungry.
He dies thirsty. Even if he drinks the water of all seas he will still be thirsty.
The three punishments in the Grave:

Allah tightens his grave until his chest ribs come over each other.
Allah pours on him fire with embers.
Allah sets on him a snake called "the brave","the bold" which hits him from morning until afternoon for leaving Fajr prayer, from the afternoon until Asr for leaving Dhuhr prayer and so on. With each strike he sinks 70 yards under the ground.
The three punishments on the Day of Judgement:

Allah sends who would accompany him to hell pulling him on the face.
Allah gives him an angry look that makes the flesh of his face fall down.
Allah judges him strictly and orders him to be thrown in hell.

The response:

Dear Arshad, Assalamu Alaikum wa Rahmatullah.

Thank you for your hadith enquiry. You asked about the status of the following hadith:

"The one who disdains the prayers will receive fifteen punishments from Allah. Six punishments in lifetime,three while dying, three in grave and three on the Day of Judgement... [etc.]"

This is a well known fabricated hadith. Shaykh Zakariyya Kandhlawi has recorded the hadith in his work Fadhail 'Amaal.

The classical hadith master Hafidh Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani described the hadith as "manifest falsehood" in his work Lisan al-Mizan (Vol.5/pp.295-97).

More recently, Shaykh Abdul-Aziz ibn Baz, former Grand Mufti of Saudi
Arabia, said in his Fatawa Collection (Vol.1/p.97): "It is compulsory on a person who finds a paper containing this hadith that he burns it, and warns anyone that he finds spreading this narration so as to safeguard the Sunnah of the Prophet (saw) from the lies of the liars."

Re: Commonly spread false hadith
09/06/01 at 23:13:17
asalaam alaikum -

brother bhaloo, i emailed this to my friends & family, and got this as a reply:

[i]Asslam o Alaikum,
I have heard this Hadith several times. I don't think there is anything wrong with this Hadith. Who is this person, who is claiming that it is false. I want to know his authority. Is he an Alim?We need to do a research. I am sure we will find this Hadith in Bukhari or Muslim.
Khalid Uncle[/i]

are you SURE this is an incorrect hadith? i think i will give my uncle this threads address so he can follow up on this, but please let me know if you checked this with an alim?

Re: Commonly spread false hadith
09/06/01 at 23:50:00

sister pakipricess, check [url=]this[/url] thread for more info on this hadith. Read Br assing's post.

Re: Commonly spread false hadith
09/07/01 at 00:41:58

Yes the hadith is false as was mentioned by the famous scholars I cited.  

It is DEFINITELY not in Bukhari, Muslim, Tirmhidi, Sunan of Abu Dawood, Muwatta's collection, it only takes me a few seconds to verify if a hadith is in anyone of those collections, because I have those databases on my computer and can search for them, I believe one can also search those databases at the MSA USC website.

Recently another brother started to spread this fabricated hadith to his list and was hoping to reach 5 million people.  People have to verify information before sending it out.  There are 2 more false situations that come to mind, one related to prayers and another false one about the night watchman from Saudi Arabia.  
Re: Commonly spread false hadith
09/07/01 at 06:09:34

Sister Pakistani Princess,

The emphasis is on proving that the hadith is true, not on disproving that it does not exist.
Re: Commonly spread false hadith
09/07/01 at 10:46:16
Allahul'musta'an, I was not planning to mention this but that incident mentioned by Pakiprincess prompted me to describe what took place between me and guy who is supposed to be an "alim" or "mawlana" at the Darul-Uloom back in Trinidad.
  This whole discussion began while i was with a brother in his car on the way to the Darul-Uloom instituite and i said to him one of phe main things about the Jamaat At Tableegh {aside from other things they practice} that truly gets to me is; how they narrate many weak, as a matter of fact mawdoo hadeeth just like that without stating to the muslim masses that such ahadeeth are not authentic {especially from the book fazal al a'mal, which as Al Albani says hundreds of weak and fabricated hadeeth}, having them believe that it is all from the messenger {saw}, and i gave the above hadeeth as an example. So when we arrived at the Darul-Uloom, this brother who was with me who is also graduate from the Darul-Uloom, told this "mawlana" about what i told about the hadeeth for the punishement for leaving off the salat and what the scholars of hadeeth said about it. All this this time was in the car by myself waiting for the brother.
  He then called me and asked me to explain to the mawlana what it told him. I told him. First of all he asked me do i know who mawlana Zakariyyah is? {The author of fadail al amal}.  I said "no", but  i asked him is he infallible?  He then tried to say that some ahadeeth that are weak hadeeth but by all its different chains of narrations they strengthen each other, thus they become saheeh and you can work by it. I said yes what you are saying is true, but under the following conditions:

For those that follow the opinion that acting upon a da'eef ahaadeeth is permissible, it would be good to mention the three conditions for acting upon a da'eef ahaadeeth as laid out by Ibn Hajr al-Asqalaanee:

1) Upon that which they all agree {the scholars of hadeeth}, that it should not be very weak so that it excludes that only narrated by a liar, one accused of lying and one who makes serious mistakes.

2) That is falls under a general proof already present - which excludes that which is invented having no basis.

3) That acting upon it the person does not think that it is something established - in order that he does not attribute to the Prophet what he did not say.

I then said that this cannot be applied to this hadeeth because of two main reasons:
1. the narrator of this hadeeth {muhammad ibn Ali Ibn Abbas Al Baghdadi} is not just very weak but he has been charged with fabricating ahadeeth, so that trows out the question of it even reaching the level of hasan and secondly under what sharia principle will this hadeeth falls under, espacially if such a persons repents as the messenger {saw} said "tawba wipes away the sins that were before it".

He then began to make it a personal issue and asked why who brought me here?, {the brother asked me to come in the store}, he i do i want to know if this hadeeth is weak or not?, is this all that i do with my time?, and in any event the average muslim will know understand what you mean when you say a hadeeth is weak, and whole heap of "tah tah". So in the end, he told me his is sorry for me {miskeen} but he cannot help me {poor boy!!!!!}, but he would advise me to stick to a madhab. Whatever. And after all that talk he still could not deal directly with the issue and not attack me personally. Allahul musta'an.

Anyways, as for pakiprincess question, i will save you the time and effort this book will not be found in Saheeh Bukhari, Muslim,sunan At Tirmhidi, Sunan of Abu Dawood, imam Malik's Muwatta, the musnad of imam Ahmad, Ad Darqutanee, musannaf of ibn Abi Shaybah, musnad Al Bazzar, Al bayahqee, musnad Ad Daaremee, but rather this can be found in {aside from fada'il al amal} in ibn An Najjar "Tanzee As Shareeah", from muhammad ibn Ali Ibn Abbas Al Baghdadi about whom imam Ad Dhahabee in his book "al meezaan" vol 3 pg. 653. concerning his biography:He his the one who put together the false hadeeth of Bakr ibn Ziyaad An Naysaboree about leaving of the salah. This is why Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani described the hadith as "manifest falsehood from the ahadeeth of the {sufi} tariqah"

And this is the problem with these guys you could show them all the proofs, evidences, statements of the ulama you want they will not accept it unless it comes from their group or their scholars, what a way to judge the haqq. Anyways, i got to go now and inshallah i will hook up with you all guys.          


Re: Commonly spread false hadith
09/07/01 at 17:05:44
Brother Hisham assing and any others,

[quote]i said to him one of the main things about the Jamaat At Tableegh {aside from other things they practice} that truly gets to me is; how they narrate many weak, as a matter of fact mawdoo hadeeth just like that without stating to the muslim masses that such ahadeeth are not authentic {especially from the book fazal al a'mal, which as Al Albani says hundreds of weak and fabricated hadeeth}, [/quote]

please do not go against the constitution and raise matters of the Tabligh Jammat. Fine they may have their problems but this board is not the right place nor is it the right time to discuss the problems of the Tabligh Jammat.

We all know about fazil amal and some of its hadiths and fazails. That hadith topic whcih Bro Arshad has posted has been discussed before. Lets move on and talk about something else, rather than just going round the loop, if we can't post something useful then lets not post at all.

Remember people we are supposed to stick together. :) So lets do that.

Lets respect the scholars who have passed away i.e Moulana Zakaryah, remember they were truly better than me and perhaps even you.
One thing we as Muslims have got to stop is all this scholar bashing, right now its Moulana Zakarayh and in a couple of years it will be Shiekh Bin Baaz who is critsied. Lets not fall into this trap, look at the good that our scholars did and perhaps if they did make a mistake or erred then lets leave it, Allah is the forgiver, judge and jury not us, this board is not the Khilafah and I bet there arn't many of us who are well versed in Islamic Jurispudence, lets take the good and leave the bad.

Salaams for now

Re: Commonly spread false hadith
09/07/01 at 17:31:05

Bro Haniff, sorry, but i completely disagree. Although this board may not be a place to pass judgements upon different groups however that doesn't mean that we keep the truth to ourselves and not share it.

No one is bashing Moulana Zakariya. No alim is perfect, they all make mistake. that's not bashing.

Re: Commonly spread false hadith
09/07/01 at 18:13:37
assalaamu alaikum

I agree with sister Saleema. Correcting someone's mistake doesn't mean that you are dissing them. If the correction is made correctly it shows one's sincerity lies with the truth and sincerity to the truth, however, if one were to brush the mistakes of a scholar under the carpet it would show less sincerity to the message and more sincerity to the scholar.

Wa Salaam
Re: Commonly spread false hadith
09/08/01 at 17:45:10
Sis Mujahida,

First I've only got one F in my Name :)

Secondly, Brother Hisham Assing made an indirect reference to the Tablighi Jammat.  Sis Mujahida you know as a moderator that certain aspects of truth can not be discussed on this board. And I will be the first to agree with you that you are right and it should not be held to ourselves, when we know the truth, yet in line with the constitution if you come to this board this you must abide by it.
If you or anyona else wants to have a discussion with me on the above topic I will be more than happy to have one with you, yet in my opionion I think it might not be the best place to discuss it here.
And I can even provide a site where it can be discussed.


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